Sunday, October 11, 2015

Hey, Ben, How About This Idea?

So Ben Carson, who is proving himself to be a thoroughly nauseating excuse for a human being, has now taken to repeating the idiotic right wing mantra that Germany's Jews would have saved themselves if only they were heavily armed.

Well, here's a thought for you, Ben?  How about if neither the Jews nor the Nazis had been allowed to have weapons?  How much of a holocaust would there have been then?

If you really want to prevent right wing monsters from taking over a country and running a regime of terror, which would work better- arming their potential victims, or not letting the monsters have guns themselves?

The logical conclusion of Ben's position is that we are really only safe if no one has guns.  After all, you have to go back to before Oda Nobunaga or so to find someone winning a war with knives and axes. So I'm going with Ben's argument here and suggesting that any civilian caught with a gun outside of his or her own house be thrown in prison for a really long time.


Magpie said...

Oda Nobunaga was indeed an early fan of the use of massed firearms.
He also ended up dying in a burning building when one of his generals turned on him, so it did not avail him ultimately.

Unless I missed it... can someone please ask Ben if he is aware the Nazis weren’t a posse of amateurs. That it took the biggest war in history to defeat them.
There is something very insulting to the victims of the holocaust in asserting that they could somehow have been up to saving themselves with just a few rounds of ammo and a determined expression.

Magpie said...

To sequel my own comment:

As usual…. just when I feel something a Right wing dufus said could sound a lot like something else – that maybe they didn’t intend…. because it would be too low even for them – some other vile Right wing scumbag rushes in to clarify THAT is EXACTLY what they think:

“Frequent Fox News contributor, psychologist, and sociopath Dr. Keith Ablow...took to this weekend to defend Dr. Ben Carson's lunatic theories on why gun control led to Hitler and the Holocaust. Because Dr. Keith Ablow is a monster, his own effort is far, far worse... the claim that Germany's Jews were at least partially culpable for their own deaths at the hands of the Nazis”

‘Gosh…., if only they just golly darn pulled their socks up and took responsibility for their being pursued by hate-filled psychopaths who took over a country and turned a continent into a slaughterhouse… then nothing bad could possibly have happened to them...’

Green Eagle said...

Well, that would save the 6 million Jews, you betcha! The other 44 million that were killed in World War II, why, if only they had fought back too, they would have beaten those Nazis real quick like, and no one would have died. Oh wait, I guess they did fight back for six years, and still 44 million were killed. If only they had had Mike Huckabee there to tell them how to fight like real men.

Anonymous said...

Spinning again I see

Anonymous said...

He never said Jews would have been saved if it weren't for gun confiscation
Did you flunk reading comprehension?

Magpie said...

Oh no don’t you try and squirm your shithead propaganda network out of this, Anon.

What he actually said:

“The mindset that Jews surrendered with their guns is far more important than the hardware they turned over: They surrendered the demonstrated intention, at all costs, to resist being deprived of liberty. If Jews in Germany had more actively resisted the Nazi party or the Nazi regime and had diagnosed it as a malignant and deadly cancer from the start, there would, indeed, have been a chance for the people of that country and the world to be moved to action by their bold refusal to be enslaved.”

What he said, Anon.
Any wiggle room?

What Fox News has on their site:

“Dr. Ben Carson recently asserted that if guns had not been confiscated from Jews then Hitler would have had more trouble orchestrating the Holocaust…. Ben Carson is right.”

A Jewish person wrote that. That's how hopelessly propagandized many Americans are.

It’s not spin to actually quote what they said and stand by, Anon.

Why talk about the Holocaust in connection with this subject AT ALL ?
Answer: to impart an impression to the most ignorant and gullible members of the American public that unless they buy guns by the truckload some evil people will have nothing better to do than to drag them away to a concentration camp for the purposes of…. OF…
Fuck knows what, actually… they never explain that. None of that Right wing dribble ever makes any sense.