Monday, June 29, 2009

Wingnut Wrapup- Honduran Freedom Edition

I want to start out this very ample edition of Wingnut Wrapup with a sampling of conservative responses to yesterday's military coup in Honduras, demonstrating their firm commitment to democracy and freedom:

Moe Lane, Red State: "Turns out that Honduras did not have a coup after all. An official statement of the Supreme Court of Justice explained that the Armed Forces acted under lawful grounds when detaining the President of the Republic..."

As armed forces always do when they remove the democratically elected leader of a country. Right on, Moe. We're so proud of your principled stand.

Power Line: "In condemning the removal of Honduran President Mel Zelayaya by the Honduran military, Pesident Obama stands shoulder to shoulder withe Fidel Castro and his thug epigones Hugo Chavez and Daniel Ortega. The Honduran military has sought to enforce the rule of law by providing for Zelaya's departure from the scene.

Horror of horrors! The President of Honduras tried to conduct an illegal popular vote! Will evil always be with us! Of course, in the face of this abomination, it is obviously "enfocing the rule of law" to have a military coup! What else are military coups for, but to enfoce the law, right?

Gateway Pundit: "Tinpot Dictator Taken Down In Honduras....
this is not a coup, this is the Honduran Armed Forces carrying out an order of the Supreme Court of Honduras....Today is a day of liberty in Honduras."

Because nothing says liberty like replacing a legally elected leader with a military dictator.

World Net Daily: "Honduran president ousted by military 'coup'

Of course, since the legal government of Honduras was left-leaning, it's only a 'coup', not a real coup.

Mary Anastasia O'Grady, Wall Street Journal: "Honduras Defends its Democracy"

By losing it.

Could anything be more lunatic and detatched from reality than thinking that the Republican party and the American right give a damn about democracy and freedom? This is just pathetic. And truly contemptible.
Now, on to the rest of the idiocy:

Burt Prelutzky, Town Hall: " Obama Could Work for The New York Times "

Not Bush though. They don't accept manuscripts written in finger paint.

Ted Cruz, Red State: "Challenging Times for Conservatives, Yet I’m Optimistic"

What, you think you're going to get an Argentine mistress too?

Gateway Pundit: "It Has Begun... Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate Sold On eBay"

Well, I guess that's the smoking gun we've all been looking for, then. I still won't believe it though, until I've seen it on World Net Daily.

Newsmax: "Cost of Climate Change Bill: $560 Per American"

Cost of no climate change bill: Most of our grandchildren die. But, $560. To ME. Right NOW! I guess that makes it okay. The rest is their problem, huh?

A lot of people thought I was going too far when I have said for years that "conservative" really means someone who will sell their children into poverty for a couple of hundred dollar tax cut. Last laugh to me, guys- I was right. Only it isn't so funny, huh?

Wes Vernon, Renew America: "The Death to America Act"

Death to America would result from asking corporate polluters to clean up after themselves. Well, we don't want to die, do we? Not when we have that $560.00 tax cut to look forward to.

Renew America Book Review: "It is a world in the not so distant future where the forces of the Left have saddled professional sports with quadriplegic referees, transgendered concessionaires and stuttering sportscasters."

At least we didn't saddle professional sports with the Dumbest President Ever as a team owner. Actually, now that I think about it, given that he did to the country what Donald Stirling did to the Clippers, maybe he should have stayed in sports.

American Spectator: "Barack Obama's reaction to Michael Jackson's death hasn't exactly shone. He's let Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Larry King fill the emotional void. It's been his Katrina moment."

Bush: A great American city drowns. Many die, the country is humiliated and the cost is tens of billions. Obama: didn't speak out enough about Michael Jackson. No one dies, no one humiliated, cost-nothing.

But they are just the same. If you are a conservative.

Jeremy Lott, American Spectator: "To pass her climate bill, Nancy Pelosi made a mockery of democracy. "

I.e. she got a majority of congressmen to vote for it. Now that is a mockery of democracy. Unlike the brave stand for democracy we saw in Honduras yesterday. That's democracy, Republican style.

Steven Spruiell, National Review Online: "Left-wingers and Democratic partisans are united in a vigorous effort to blame deregulation for the financial crisis."

In other words, Steven, they're telling the truth. Don't like that? I didn't think you would. After all, you are a conservative.


Stogie said...

Deregulation isn't remotely the reason for the financial crisis, no matter how willfully ignorant you want to keep yourself. The crisis was caused by Democrats beginning with Jimmy Carter and continuing through Clinton who forced banks and mortgage companies, under threat of suit, to make bad loans to minorities without any credit or ability to repay. This caused the housing bubble and the rise in prices, and the ultimate bursting of the bubble, leaving the bad loan borrowers to simply walk away from their loans by the tens of thousands.

The result: a plunging housing market with hundreds of banks and mortgage companies going broke, and insurance companies like AIG who had insured those bad loans.

You really don't have a clue do you? Of course not. If you did, you wouldn't be a liberal.

The current deep recession was caused by Democrats and their slippery grasp on economic reality.

Green Eagle said...


Thanks for the visit. The preposterous line that letting minorities buy houses caused our economic collapse is a lie, pure and simple.

Either you are telling it, or someone told it to you. In the first case, you are a jerk, in the second case, you are a fool.

I'm not going to waste my time arguing with malicious, dishonest people who choose to believe this kind of patently false garbage. I wonder if you also believe that Nazis are liberals, that global warming is a hoax, that military coups are a great way to bring democracy to a country, that the world is 6000 years old and all the rest of it.

I've just had too much of it.

quietmagpie said...

I assume by his specificity that Stogie thinks it would have been quite all right to lend money to white Americans of equal or worse credit rating instead of minorities.
If we want to entertain an explanation that is based on financial logic and cause-and-effect... instead of one based on hate-peddling vilification... this one has been widely viewed and is very good.

mastercynic said...

There is, sadly, plenty of blame to go around for the current economic crisis, but any idiot has to know that the primary cause is Obama's failure to speak out about Michael Jackson's death so the Republicans could label him a pedophile-sympathizer!

Green Eagle said...


Good point there. I like your way of thinking.

Stogie said...

Green DoDo Bird, did you read even one of the articles that I linked? If you did you would see that you are, as usual, completely wrong about everything. Once again, you don't have a clue. Why do you insist on making such a fool of yourself this way?

Here are the facts:
1. Yes Zelaya was elected; he was attempting to install his own dictatorship in Honduras by running an illegal referendum that would make him President for life, just like that jackass in Venezuela.
2. It was not a "military coup" or a coup of any kind. Zelaya was ordered by the Supreme Court to stop his illegal referendum and when he did not, the Supreme Court ordered him arrested for disobedience to the Honduran Constitution.
3. The Army arrested Zelaya but they did not take control of the country. The contol of the country immediately went to civilian control.

I enjoy making you look like a jackass Green DoDo bird, do come back often, my foot so loves the feel of your butt.

Stogie said...

Oh by the way, the fact of the Democrats' bad mortgage loans for minorities schemes is well documented.

Try reading "Meltdown" by Thomas E. Woods or "Liberty and Tyranny" by Mark Levin. Both cover the documented facts in sufficient detail that not even your fantasies can overcome them.

Green Eagle said...


If you look through my archives, you will see that I have had a number of conservatives among my relatively few commenters, and that I have been quite respectful of them. However, the time for self delusion in this country is over. So, here is the thing:

A military coup represents the opposite of democracy and freedom. No amount of tortured logic can change that fact. When you find a way to convince yourself otherwise, you place yourself so far outside the bounds of rational discourse, that there is no appropriate reaction to your comments, short of ridicule and contempt.

As for the lunatic thesis that the recent near depression was caused by a law requiring loans to be made to all people on the same basis, regardless of race, that is both malicious and utterly preposterous.

Ronald Reagan did away with the rules enacted during the depression that created the basis for the longest period of sustained prosperity in the history of our country. These rules did not prevent recessions, but they produced a marked decrease in the severity of business cycles. Reagan opened Pandora's box, and a couple of decades later, here we are. I don't know what you think you know about economics, but if you can't see that, you are blind indeed. And you see, I, for one, am not willing to sit around while your sick emotional need to buy into right wing lies drives us over another cliff.

You are always welcome to comment here, and I hope that I will always answer reasonable objections to my views, with civility. My blog, however, is not one more platform for the dissemination of Republican talking points, so I will continue to respond to comments as I think appropriate.

You are obviously an intelligent person with a great interest in political issues. I hope to hear from you in the future.