Leon Panetta on This Week this morning, via Atrios:
“Winning in Afghanistan is having a country that is stable enough to ensure that there is no safehaven for Al Qaeda or for a militant Taliban that welcomes Al Qaeda,” Panetta told host Jake Tapper. “That’s really the measure of success for the United States.”
Leon, let me point something out to you: you guys can't even see to it that there is no safe haven in this country for abortion doctor murderers, would-be Nazis and open race haters, let alone the Crips and the Bloods. How the hell do you think the weak Afghan government is ever going to eliminate the Taliban, which, unlike the Crips and the Bloods is being financed and given haven by the country next door?
If that's what winning is, we've lost already. (note- that's exactly what we have done- Bush and Cheney lost this war years ago.) So the only sensible thing to do is to give up and pull out before we waste any more lives and money over there.
Can't handle the truth, huh, Leon?