Intellectual Discussion with Wingnuts- a Case Study
Recently, Green Eagle had occasion to reply to a Christian Identity video purported to prove that the real Jews were all Aryans, posted on You Tube. As an aside I must add that it would appear that the great majority of Christian Identity adherents do not have particularly spectacular reading skills, because the bulk of their presence online consists of videos. Anyway, back to the subject.
As Green Eagle is known far and wide for his ability to have meaningful, constructive intellectual discussions with this sort of person, I thought it would be instructive to the less accomplished among us to see an example of his skill. So, here it is:
Green Eagle: "I just want to tell you how much I enjoyed this. It is one of the greatest collections of ludicrous misinterpretations of history and easily disprovable assertions I have ever heard. Really, you guys should be writing for Saturday Night Live or Monty Python. And to top it off, the Jefferson Airplane song that is about taking LSD, twisted to claim it means something that would make Grace Slick pee in her pants laughing.
Thank the lord there aren't very many people in the world stupid enough to believe any of this nonsense."
Green Eagle: "+1611kjvbibleone You lie. I didn't cry and scream- I laughed at you."
Green Eagle: "Actually, I don't remember that at all. Can you give me a couple of hints to help remind me?"
Green Eagle: "Nope...doesn't ring a bell."
Green Eagle:
"1. The plural of bell is bells, not bell's.
2. Turn your God damn caps lock key off already.
3. Can't answer the question, can you?"
Green Eagle: "Man, I'm enjoying conversing with you, 1611. So, let's get down to things.
First of all, either I'm a crotch licking homo, or I have vaginal discharge. I can't be both. I guess that means you flunked sixth grade biology (and never ever had sex with either a man or a woman,) but we could have figured that out by ourselves.
Yes we can= thank you Satan? In what language, exactly? Not in English, but we could have figured that out too, since you obviously flunked sixth grade English too:
"YOUR MAD (Illiterate),,,,,,,, DOES THE BIG LETTERS HURT YOU..(Also illiterate) YOUR SCARED (Illiterate) YOU WIMP YOUR VAGINAL DISCHARGE AND YOUR MENTAL MASTERBAITION (Misspelled) OF LIE'S (Illiterate) AND ALSO YOUR SCHIZOPHRENIC (Illiterate)"...six examples of incompetence with the English language in 23 words. That may be a record.
And by the way, turn your fucking caps lock key off already. It's just one more sign of your ignorance, and I think you are already over the limit where it goes from being a misdemeanor to a felony.
Finally, I'm guessing you are two posts away from having a heart attack. Go for it!
Green Eagle: "+1611kjvbibleone, one more post, and pfft! There goes your heart. Better be careful there. It's all in your hands. If I were you, I'd restrict your online presence to looking at pictures of kitties. Really, I'm just trying to give you some good advice."
Green Eagle: "I am sorry to have to note the demise from heart explosion of 1611kjvbibleone, approximately two hours ago. Any more posts in his name are obviously the product of malicious trolls determined to desecrate his name; therefore, out of respect for his memory, I will not dignify their vicious behavior with any further reply."
Well, there you go. I hope you have learned a lesson in constructively relating to right wingers. With a couple of decades practice, I am sure you too can approach the judicious, thoughtful analysis so well known from Green Eagle.
As Green Eagle is known far and wide for his ability to have meaningful, constructive intellectual discussions with this sort of person, I thought it would be instructive to the less accomplished among us to see an example of his skill. So, here it is:
Green Eagle: "I just want to tell you how much I enjoyed this. It is one of the greatest collections of ludicrous misinterpretations of history and easily disprovable assertions I have ever heard. Really, you guys should be writing for Saturday Night Live or Monty Python. And to top it off, the Jefferson Airplane song that is about taking LSD, twisted to claim it means something that would make Grace Slick pee in her pants laughing.
Thank the lord there aren't very many people in the world stupid enough to believe any of this nonsense."
1611kjvbibleone: "CRY AND SCREAM LIKE THE SERPENT YOU ARE..........ALL OF THIS VIDEO 100% THE TRUE ISRAELITES ARE WHITE/RUDDYADAM=RUDDY- TO BLUSH, TO TURN RED, TO SHOW BLOOD IN THE FACE [ SKIN ] AND NOAH WAS PURE BLOODED FROM ADAM,,, THE DEAD SEA SCROLL'S SAY'S NOAH WAS WHITE AND ROSY RED,,,,,WOW KING DAVID WAS RUDDY AND SOLOMON WAS WHITE AND THE NAZARITES ARE WHITE AND RUDDY,, WOW AND JESUS CHRIST IS WHITE AND THE ISRAELITES ARE WHITE WOW,,, WOW ,,,, WOW,,, ADAM =WHITE MAN.......CUSH/KUSH AND HAM WERE WHITE MEN THAT'S RIGHT...... GREEN EAGLE YOU HATE JESUS CHRIST=WHO IS WHITE ?"
Green Eagle: "+1611kjvbibleone You lie. I didn't cry and scream- I laughed at you."
1611kjvbibleone: "REMEMBER WHEN YOU WERE JUMPING UP AND DOWN LIKE A BABOON SCREAMING [ YES WE CAN ]=THANK YOU SATAN.. SO YOU WORSHIP SATAN."
Green Eagle: "Actually, I don't remember that at all. Can you give me a couple of hints to help remind me?"
1611kjvbibleone: "FOR YOUR savior OBAMA WHEN VOTING TIME, HOMIE"
Green Eagle: "Nope...doesn't ring a bell."
1611kjvbibleone: YOU LIKE TO HEAR BELL'S ? AND IS THERE A BELL IN YOUR HEAD ?
Green Eagle:
"1. The plural of bell is bells, not bell's.
2. Turn your God damn caps lock key off already.
3. Can't answer the question, can you?"
1611kjvbibleone: "I TOLD YOU WHEN.. VOTING TIME FOR OBAMA [ YES WE CAN ]=THANK YOU SATAN,,,,,, YOU CROTCH MILKING HOMO REPENT OF YOUR CROTCH MILKING AND YOUR HOMO ORGY'S .. SO YOU KNOW YOU HAVE DEMONS IN YOUR HEAD.. YOUR MAD,,,,,,,, DOES THE BIG LETTERS HURT YOU.. YOUR SCARED YOU WIMP YOUR VAGINAL DISCHARGE AND YOUR MENTAL MASTERBAITION OF LIE'S AND ALSO YOUR SCHIZOPHRENIC YOU DENY THE TRUTH REMEMBER SCREAMING [ YES WE CAN ]=THANK YOU SATAN LIGHTNING FROM HEAVEN REMEMBER..... ARE YOU MY FRIEND NOW....... "
Green Eagle: "Man, I'm enjoying conversing with you, 1611. So, let's get down to things.
First of all, either I'm a crotch licking homo, or I have vaginal discharge. I can't be both. I guess that means you flunked sixth grade biology (and never ever had sex with either a man or a woman,) but we could have figured that out by ourselves.
Yes we can= thank you Satan? In what language, exactly? Not in English, but we could have figured that out too, since you obviously flunked sixth grade English too:
"YOUR MAD (Illiterate),,,,,,,, DOES THE BIG LETTERS HURT YOU..(Also illiterate) YOUR SCARED (Illiterate) YOU WIMP YOUR VAGINAL DISCHARGE AND YOUR MENTAL MASTERBAITION (Misspelled) OF LIE'S (Illiterate) AND ALSO YOUR SCHIZOPHRENIC (Illiterate)"...six examples of incompetence with the English language in 23 words. That may be a record.
And by the way, turn your fucking caps lock key off already. It's just one more sign of your ignorance, and I think you are already over the limit where it goes from being a misdemeanor to a felony.
Finally, I'm guessing you are two posts away from having a heart attack. Go for it!
1611kjvbibleone: "YOUR A HERMAPHRODITE.. SEE YOU ARE BOTH ... . AS FAR AS SPELLING= YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS, HAHAHAHAHA HAHHAH UNLESS IT IS YOUR HAND, AND WHAT THE INTERNET COPS ARE GOING TO LOCK ME UP FOR TELLING THE TRUTH....? I BET YOU CRY WHEN YOU MASTERBAIT....YOU HERMAPHRODITE"
Green Eagle: "+1611kjvbibleone, one more post, and pfft! There goes your heart. Better be careful there. It's all in your hands. If I were you, I'd restrict your online presence to looking at pictures of kitties. Really, I'm just trying to give you some good advice."
1611kjvbibleone: "YOUR CRYING WHY ARE YOU CRYING YOUR A CRY BABY, YOUR A WIMP, BUT YOU DO DENY THE TRUTH, REMEMBER SCREAMING [YES WE CAN ]=THANK YOU SATAN THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS LOOK IT UP.......HAHAHAA HAHAHA HAHAHAHAHHAA HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HERMAPHRODITE HAHAAHHAHA HAHAHAH HAHAHAH"
Green Eagle: "I am sorry to have to note the demise from heart explosion of 1611kjvbibleone, approximately two hours ago. Any more posts in his name are obviously the product of malicious trolls determined to desecrate his name; therefore, out of respect for his memory, I will not dignify their vicious behavior with any further reply."
Well, there you go. I hope you have learned a lesson in constructively relating to right wingers. With a couple of decades practice, I am sure you too can approach the judicious, thoughtful analysis so well known from Green Eagle.
Comments
And that doesn't even begin to get into what it's like to take care of your MAD...
Since you are a hermaphrodite, I am surprised that they did not tell you to go fuck yourself.
It's hardly surprising that such sad, mentally-crippled creatures turn to racism. When they have nothing of themselves to make them feel worthy, telling themselves that their skin color makes them better than other people may be all they have.
In my experience, after a couple of exchanges with people like this, they accuse you of being a Jew, but I guess the Christian Identity types can't allow themselves to be straightforwardly anti-Semitic.
I'll give the guy a little credit for the fact that at some point in his life he apparently looked up what year the KJV was published.
And Joseph, of course it is hopeless to change these guys' sick thinking. As Infidel has pointed out at his site, sad to say, people need to be aware that this sort of thing exists. I try to find ways to bring this to people's attention without it being too painful to contemplate.
No Anon, please don’t pretend that these people aren’t 100% THAT stupid.
That they don’t honestly believe that bile.
That they don’t create pathetic organisations that are entirely dedicated to it. That they don’t spend much of their lives repeating it to each other.
Even with the less demented, if one persists in attempting rational discussion as to why their world view is a perverse fiction, sooner or later one will get called spawn of Satan or similar. As dehumanisation of other people is the wellspring of their entire self-perception....so too is it ultimately what they resort to when they don’t get their way.
No-one here would call you a demonic or non-human entity, or initiate irrelevant suppositions about your biology, by way of political argumentation.
No-one here has to - that’s what the other side does.
That’s all they’ve got, when their veneer of snake-oil salesmen politicians and corrupt judges and tax-dodging business shysters are stripped away and they are left standing there in all their pig-ignorant religious wacko splendour before they head off to the kitchen to beat their wives some more and tell their children not to read books.
Not, mind you, that the Mike Huckabees and Ted Cruzes of this world are any more honest or rational- they just aren't so clearly stupid.